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Posted: 2009-08-18 08:57:18
Introduction and Comments by David Nelson for the writing by Clifford Hilbert entitled “The Destruction of the
On 8-7-09 I received a lengthy prophetic word authored by Clifford Hilbert. It is entitled “The Destruction of the
I am not sure about every detail in Clifford’s word but I think as a whole it ought to be seriously considered. The 1st writing you will read present my comments on certain subjects in Clifford’s writing. I have not commented on all subjects, the rest is for you to think about and ask the Lord to show you what is right (or like Mary, Jesus’ mother, to ponder them in your heart). The 2nd writing will be Clifford’s writing “The Destruction of the
Please realize, if you don’t like something Clifford has said or the way he said it, that we have many types of personalities in the Body of Christ that may express the same truths in different words and in different ways. As with myself, and I’m sure Clifford would agree, men can make mistakes, so go to the Lord and go to His Word. The Lord will show you the way.
1st writing --Comments by David Nelson
It has taken a forced isolation, an escaping from the gravity of earthly things and a degree of boredom to escape the things of the world to see more clearly the things God wants us to see. He will show you also many things if you seek His face diligently and will turn away from earthly “delights.” God will reveal many things to you if you seek Him and do not give up.
Christians of many different denominations do not realize that one of the highest things with God is love. Many Christians have very, very little of it. We should ask the Lord to show us how to love more, and really understand how He wants us to love Him and love each other more.
Many in the Church think they are saved but God wants us to understand what it really means to be saved. Jesus said, “This is eternal life, to know Him….” (Jn. 17:3) We must know the Lord and have a relationship with Him. We must talk to Him and know His voice when He talks to us. With this relationship we will grow in righteousness and become like Him in holiness. We are to know His voice, follow Him and love Him.
The Word of God is written but the Spirit of God must infuse the Word so that it is a Living Word to us (not just the letter but the Spirit and the letter). Without the Spirit we will not understand the Word as we ought to, sermons will not be anointed, the oracles of God will not be spoken through us by the Gifts of the Spirit. There is so much lacking today in sermons and teachings, we are not hearing from the throne of God, we need to hear "Thus saith the Lord" from those who are ministering. We want fresh break from heaven!
It is not right the way pastors are treated as kings by the people of congregations. Every person has at least one spiritual gift, the pastor is just one gift (and often he/she has far over stepped their function), every person should be allowed to express their spiritual gifts as the Holy Spirit directs. The pastor may have to be silent and let all the people move in their gifts as God directs them. Then all will see that God is the King, and He will be more glorified by the abundance of variety of giftings that He is allowed to bring forth. The reputed leaders may just fall silent for a time to show that God is the center, when He is allowed to do anything He wants through anyone at any time He chooses.
The New and Old Testaments teach more about suffering and not that everything is going to go well for us all the time. The “faith” message gives the idea that we can control our circumstances. Going through hard things deepens our character and makes the gold of our faith purer through various sufferings. A deeper joy will come from the firing of our gold. Not just a shallow happiness of “all good times” but a deep joy that everything (good and bad) works together to make us what He wants us to be. (there will be times of fire and times of rich blessings too). People are being deceived when they are told that they can control all circumstances with their words or their faith. Things do happen to us ordained by God in which we must keep our eyes upon God and keep trusting in Him even when hard things do not go away.
There is very little discernment in much of the Body of Christ today. Much of what is on religious programming today must be discerned as to what is of God and what isn’t. Asking for money all the time is not right, it stinks in God’s nostrils, and it stinks to anyone who can discern how wrong it is. Much of what is being taught is not anointed messages from the throne of God. Where is the Lord’s voice in all this that is being said? Where are those who can say, “Thus saith the Lord” with the Lord’s authority in their voices and their words?
For those who have been seeking the Lord in these last years God has been preparing us by various trials for even harder times ahead. We are being made ready. We are learning to have our eyes on the Lord alone and trust Him and understand His loving care. It would be great if we were whisked out of this world by the Lord before anything gets too bad. But I believe there may be greater trials ahead. Many “Christians” will not pass the tests that are ahead because there will be a falling away, a dividing line, with those who do not love the truth and want to believe lies and be comfortable on one side, and those who love the truth and who know their God on the other side. God Himself will send a strong delusion and allow them to believe a lie for those who do not love the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. (II Thess. 2:3, 9-12) We must not be in love with this world but love God and sacrifice to follow the Spirit only. There will also be a persecution of the true Church. Some will be imprisoned, some tortured, and some will be martyred (put to death) because of their faith.
Posted: 2009-08-18 08:47:58 by: Clifford Hilbert
Monday, March 16, 2009
The Destruction of the USA by Clifford HilbertMy name is Clifford Hilbert and God appointed me a watchman. He even chose my name for me before I was born. I am a watchman who stands on the edge of the cliff watching the fording place in the river, so that when I see the enemy coming I can warn the people. Standing there watching requires long periods of forced isolation, idleness, unbelievable boredom and great patience - the exact opposite of who and what I am. But that is what God chose for me and all I can do is obey. I have been watching for many years and now see the enemy coming. It is time to blow the trumpet in
For years biblical scholars have been trying to figure out where the
Why? Because we have been filled with pride thinking that we created this great nation and that we are the ones responsible for the great abundance we have here. We, as a nation, have failed to realize that it is God who created this nation and God who has blessed us with such abundance, that it is He who has prospered us.
We, as a nation, have turned completely away from the Lord and gone our own prideful, arrogant, sinful and decadent ways. Materialism has become our god. Money has become our god. Our own fleshly desires have become our god. Our powerful weapons have become our source of faith, instead of God. “In God we trust”, the symbol which is on own currency, is a lie.
For Christians, their big new church buildings have become their gods. Their “rights in Jesus” have become their gods. Their “faith” has become their god. The Pentecostals and charasmatics are proud of what they think are their spiritual gifts, and they use these gifts with pride and arrogance against their other brothers and sisters in Christ. They fall for every wind and wave of doctrine that comes along, and have no firm foundation to stand on. They believe that they are the ones who cause prosperity and health by their words. They have taken God out of the equation and consider themselves as gods who make everything happen by themselves. They have forgotten that the greatest gift of all is love, something they have very, very little of.
The Baptists are proud that they are “once saved, always saved” — even though Paul “worked out his salvation with fear and trembling”, and the Lord told the church at Laodecia (a church, people who thought that they were all saved) “I wish that you were hot or cold. But because you are neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!”
The Bible churches are proud that they alone know the real truth. Their pastors are all cemetery-trained and they know the Bible inside and out. They have dissected all the words and passages and can tell you the Greek and Hebrew meanings of everything in the Bible. They have discussed ten million times whether Jesus was fully human and/or fully divine. They know all the stories in the Bible, but they know nothing of the Living Word of God. There is no anointing in their sermons and the Word they teach is not “active and alive, and sharper than any two-edged sword” - it is dead , as are their hearts.
The Catholics are proud that their religion is the “only true religion”. They worship more false gods than the Greeks did — Mary and all the other dead people, the “saints”. They have made Mary part of the Godhead believing they need her to intercede for us with Jesus. The Trinity is now Father, Son and Blessed Mother. They believe that Mary has appeared all over the world and they worship the spots where there has been an apparition, even images on pieces of toast. I believe that there have been appearances at those spots - but no one has ever explained to them that Satan comes as an angel of light (a beautiful woman masquerading as the “Mother of God”) who performs great and mighty miracles that would deceive even the very elect, if that were possible. Satan has gotten what he wanted, the Catholics worship him instead of Jesus. His servants also come as angels of light, and masquerade as servants of righteousness. The priests are blind and consider themselves as little gods – unfortunately, too many of these “little gods” are child molesters. The Catholic Church conveniently shoves aside the Biblical requirement that priests must be from the tribe of Levi.
Methodists and Episcopalians are ordaining homosexual and lesbian ministers and priests. They are teaching that these abominable lifestyles are acceptable.
The churches worship their pastors as if they were gods and kings, and the pastors are filled with arrogance and pride. They want to build bigger churches so that they can have larger congregations that will inflate their egos even more. The shepherds have no idea what the word “shepherd” really means. They lift themselves up as great authorities, yet they have never learned that they are servants of the people. I have not yet met a pastor of any denomination who went out and sought a sheep that left his flock.
The pastors teach their flocks that “God is a good God, He doesn’t want you to suffer”, in direct contradiction to what the Bible says. The New Testament talks about suffering a lot more than it mentions blessings and prosperity. But that’s not “positive confession”, so they throw that aside. They teach them that “God’s promises are all for you. He wants to give you the desires of your heart. He wants you to prosper and be in good health. If you just have enough faith, you can claim your rights in Jesus and have everything you have ever desired.” No one teaches that Paul’s testimony was that he was hungry, thirsty, homeless, in rags, poorly treated, beaten and in chains. No one teaches what Jesus instructed them to do “Sell what you have, give to the poor and come, follow Me.” “He that does not give up everything he has, cannot be my disciple.” “Share in the fellowship of His sufferings” Claim those as your “rights in Jesus”!!!
Posted: 2009-07-18 22:57:09 by: David Nelson
Hosting a Move of God in Your Area by David Nelson 6-18-09
In 1998 the Lord said to me, I want you to go to other states, I will speak to My Church through you and show you how to help people start revivals in different places. The Lord was assuring me that if I went where He told me to go and sought Him with others that He would come and show us the way to revival. During my travels I learned that the
Now I am sure there are many amazing and true stories and adventures on how the Lord has begun true revival in different places, but have you experienced true revival? And if so, is that move of God (that you tasted) still continuing? Great desire for revival may still be in your heart but is the Lord actually moving in the midst of your group? If He is, please tell me how things are going. If not, if your move of God began and stopped, or as yet has never begun, I have a couple of true stories (or adventures of my own) to share with you that may wet your appetite. And also, at the end of this writing, I will give you a word from the Lord on How to Begin a Move of God in Your Area!
First let me share what happened in two different states that I visited over a period of about 3 years (1 ½ years in one state, and 1 ½ years in the second state). In the first state, at times we would meet every day for 7-10 days seeking the Lord, praying for revival, and singing unto the Lord. From time to time one man would give prophetic words that seemed to us to be right on. One night we felt led to lay a paper before the Lord describing the
In the second state I visited we also experienced an exciting move of God. One pastor in that town was willing to stop all “normal activities” and even lose people from their church who didn’t really want such a “radical” revival. (God’s revival is one in which we want to stop all human, flesh, or man-made activities and seek only Him, and to have 100 % Holy Spirit inspired and led gatherings). And so, we began praying and seeking the Lord. Sometimes our gatherings would be in a home and sometimes in the church building and sometimes even at the street corner. We never knew who was going to come or what we were going to do, and we waited for His direction at morning, afternoon or evening gatherings. Sometimes we would meet every day for 7-10 days. We might meet in the morning, or the afternoon or in the evening (and sometimes we did all three). Some of the things that happened over a 1 ½ year period were revelations from the Lord, visions, dreams, corporate singing times where the music was written and directed by the Holy Spirit on the spot. One night we danced war dances and interceded for
About 4 ½ years ago we began gathering in our own city (
We are continuing now in
Posted: 2009-06-09 08:59:35
What Does the Lord Want? By David Nelson 6-2-09
He wants us to know His heart. He wants to speak to us. The lukewarm Church has a lot of activities, but something is wrong. God is not in those activities. He is standing outside and says, If anyone will hear My voice I will come in and sit with them and sup with them. That’s what we want for the Lord to come in. He wants us to push aside all man-made activities (clear the decks) and seek only Him. How can we do this?
Imagine there is a haze over the Church where the full reality of God is being veiled. We see little glimpses of Him in nature(His majesty, His love, His creativity) in flowers (fragrance and beauty), the songs of birds, mountains, the day and night sky, and we see glimpses of Him in the church, but we want more of Him. What we want is for God to break thru to us more. We must seek His face, seek His presence, seek for God to manifest Himself and speak to us. This will be like fire coming down from Him, like bolts from above, like piercing rays of light that go deep into our hearts and spirits. I am looking for these shinny nuggets of gold and precious gems. For a long time I was longing for more in church services (whether they were small home gatherings or highly recommended conventions). Where is the Lord in all this we are doing? What does He want to say and do more in our midst? Are we letting Him come and say what He wants?
Here is what is needed and what He wants. If we stopped with our meetings and just said, “We are going to begin seeking the Lord. We want Him to come. We want Him to speak to us. We want Him to show us what He wants us to do. And we are not going to resume with our own agendas, ideas or normal routines until He comes to speak to us.” What will He say? How will we know when He speaks? We will know because His word is like fire and like a hammer that breaks rocks and He said if we seek Him diligently, with all our hearts we will find Him. Man’s words (not from the mouth of the Lord) make the people who hear them worthless. (Jer. 23:16) But who will stand in the counsel of the Lord to perceive and hear His word? (Jer. 23:18) Who has marked His word and heard it? I did not speak to these who prophesied, saith the Lord, yet they went ahead and prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel (and heard My words) and then spoke to My people My words they would have turned them from their evil (My words change people’s lives!) (Jer. 23:21-22) He who has My words let Him speak My word faithfully. Is not My word like a fire? Says the Lord, And like a hammer that breaks the rocks in pieces? (Jer. 23:28-29)
If we seek Him we will find Him and He will come and manifest Himself through whomever has his heart set to seek the Lord. And when He manifests Himself we will know, and hear a “Thus saith the Lord,” we will know that He has spoken and revealed Himself. That is all I want anymore. All our activities and words are nothing compared to one word from Him. I want no more meetings with substitute things while we wait for Him to come. I want only Him and His Spirit things. Even if in one hour of seeking Him only one thing comes from Him then that’s all I want.This is what God wants and He is waiting for some one who will stand in the gap, desiring only these bolts of fire from His presence
Posted: 2009-05-13 19:33:14 by: David Nelson
So, the Lord is willing to have a thousand revivals in a thousand different places with small or large gatherings, but our hearts must be made ready. Just like on Pentecost in the book of Acts the people said, What shall we do? This is what I would counsel hungry hearts to do. First, if you are hearing God’s call to this revival then you know that He has been preparing you and teaching you for some time now, how do we move ahead, what is the Lord showing us not to do, He is burning up “old” ways, uprooting things He never planted or are not in His plans now, planting His ancient” ways again restoring His true Church (His Bride is being perfected). He is establishing good truths in us to make us ready for step two. (Some of what the Lord has used to prepare me I have written in the book “Desiring One Thing.”)
Now, if people are on the “same page” together in a particular location (your city, my city, or your area of the country), they will need to pray. Ask the Lord for His revival (His coming to you) and do not stop asking till He comes. Knock on the Lord’s door and keep on knocking till He answers the door and His presence (and face) are before you. Seek the Lord (seek Him) and keep on seeking till He manifests Himself to you and you find Him. It may take weeks, it may take months, it may take a year or more (though the time may be shortened for the Lord’s timing and purposes in a particular location). The point is, you are never to give up (you must persist) till He progressively comes to you and reveals Himself more and more. Sometimes what He shows you (or the glimpses of Him) will be small. But you will know they are gold, they are His pure Light, and they are His fire. Thank Him for every small thing He sends. If one week there is nothing, keep pressing in. If in another week, there is only one small thing that happens (from Him), thank Him, and keep pressing in. I guarantee you by the Word of God and by His promises that He will meet you, that He is knocking and He will come in and sup with you and you with Him. You should be seeking Him in your private prayers and also with a few others corporately (if there are others who want what you want). I guarantee you that if you sincerely draw near to Him He will draw near to you. If you make baby steps toward Him, your hearts will get purified by the fire of His presence, He will be running toward you as the father ran to His broken (prodigal) son.
At times it will be a hard road seeking Him when others may mock you and say, “Where is He?” But we at Prophetic Ministry have tasted of this kind of revival in
Now, we are embarking on a new seeking of the Lord here in
Revival has already begun in many places. It begins in our hearts, as they are being purified, the old being burned up that God has no need of, and what is His precious gold remains, this is pure and holy. Revival is Him coming to us and giving us fresh bread every day, never day old, new every morning. We don’t want our works but only His works. We’re sick and tired of fleshly efforts and only long for Spirit guidance. Let us know some of your journey. We love you in the Lord. What a great revival is now unfolding!
Posted: 2009-04-29 11:33:05 by: David Nelson